tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9424060.post114860388022420801..comments2023-09-28T02:51:46.723-05:00Comments on Korean Language Notes: What is the history of Ulleungdo? (Ch. 9)Gerry Bevershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14311939520870098017noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9424060.post-1150041511655763652006-06-11T10:58:00.000-05:002006-06-11T10:58:00.000-05:00Now you know.Now you know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9424060.post-1149574282466767022006-06-06T01:11:00.000-05:002006-06-06T01:11:00.000-05:00Annonymous,I do not know the exact distance, which...Annonymous,<BR/><BR/>I do not know the exact distance, which is why I said, "less than four kilometers."Gerry Bevershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311939520870098017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9424060.post-1149572257196077832006-06-06T00:37:00.000-05:002006-06-06T00:37:00.000-05:00Gerry is wrong again.I don't understand why you ke...Gerry is wrong again.<BR/><BR/>I don't understand why you keep quoting this distance of 4kms Gerry. Jukdo Island is only 2.2kms from Ullengdo. <BR/><BR/>Silly boy....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9424060.post-1149439179763208942006-06-04T11:39:00.000-05:002006-06-04T11:39:00.000-05:00Hi Akiko,Old Korean maps show an island named Usan...Hi Akiko,<BR/><BR/>Old Korean maps show an island named Usando (于山島) drawn right next to Ulleungdo. Koreans claim Usando is Dokdo/Takeshima, but they cannot explain why it was drawn right next to Ulleungdo on almost all old Korean maps. Sometimes it was drawn to the west of Ulleungdo and sometimes to the east, yet they were always drawn right next to each other, suggesting that Usando and Ulleungdo were neighboring islands which were close enough to to each other to cause confusion with their names. <BR/><BR/>I think Usando was Jukdo (竹島), which is the Jukdo less than four kilometers off the coast of Ulleungdo, not Takeshima, which which uses the same Chinese characters (i.e. 竹島). Here are some maps that seem to support my opinion:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://groups.msn.com/LiancourtRocksDokdoorTakeshima/usandomaps.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=22" REL="nofollow">1710 Map</A><BR/><BR/>The above Korean map shows a line drawn from the Korean city of Uljin (蔚珍) to Usando and Ulleungdo (于山島 and 蔚陵島). Notice that the line connects to both Usando and Ulleungdo, showing that it applies to both islands. The writing on the line is 水路二日程 (수로이일정), which means "two days travel by sea." That means that it takes two days to travel to Ulleungdo from Uljin, which was where Ulleungdo's administrative office was. That implies that the two islands were right next to each other. If either of the two islands had been Dokdo/Takeshima, it would have meant another day's travel.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://groups.msn.com/LiancourtRocksDokdoorTakeshima/usandomaps.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=19" REL="nofollow">18 century map of Ulleungdo</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://groups.msn.com/LiancourtRocksDokdoorTakeshima/usandomaps.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=21" REL="nofollow">Close-up of the 18th century map</A><BR/><BR/>The above maps are maps of Ulleungdo and it neighboring islands. Notice that Usando (所謂 于山島) is drawn among all the other rocks and islets right next to Ulleungdo, at about where present-day Jukdo is.<BR/><BR/>Here is another map of Ulleungdo showing Usando right next to it:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://groups.msn.com/LiancourtRocksDokdoorTakeshima/usandomaps.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=18" REL="nofollow">19th Century Map of Ulleungdo</A><BR/><BR/>Finally, here is a 1899 map that shows Usan (于山) right next to Ulleungdo at about where Jukdo would be. There are even lines of longitude that eliminate any possibility that Usan could be Dokdo/Takeshima.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://groups.msn.com/LiancourtRocksDokdoorTakeshima/usandomaps.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=7" REL="nofollow">1899 map</A><BR/><BR/>The above maps show very clearly that Usando was right next to Ulleungdo, not 92 kilometers away, and there are many other Korean maps that also show Usando right next to Ulleungdo. Usando was a neighboring island of Ulleungdo, not Dokdo/Takeshima.Gerry Bevershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311939520870098017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9424060.post-1149416017192044932006-06-04T05:13:00.000-05:002006-06-04T05:13:00.000-05:00Hello again Mr Gerry.My name is Akiko and I wrote ...Hello again Mr Gerry.<BR/><BR/>My name is Akiko and I wrote to you from Hamada City in Japan. Do you remember me?<BR/><BR/>We used the informations from the other website. It was so helpful!!<BR/><BR/>Can you give us map pages links to show Takeshima is Japan's terratory?<BR/><BR/>Your good friend Akiko Y.(autumn child)<BR/>"takeshima come home!!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com